Welcome to Its Pho Real, the podcast where Bella and Crystal serve up unfiltered convos on everything from aging and ambition, to hormones, husbands, and health, to faith, friendships, and the emotional rollercoaster, its all part of the messy, but magical midlife.

If you’ve ever questioned the path you’re on, your reflection in the mirror, or what the hell comes next—this is your corner booth.

Grab a bowl of pho, pour a glass of wine (or grab your fave coffee), and come laugh, cry, and cut up with us.